Commons:Deletion requests/Category:Icelandic name graphs

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This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.

Categories with Icelandic name graphs[edit]

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These graphs show the frequency distribution of all legal Icelandic first names by day of month. This is not informative in any way as all names are randomly distributed in this respect (or, at least, no-one has tried to demonstrate that they are not). Note that many of the graphs are empty since many legal names are not in use. Also note that many names are only used by a single person so the data here combined with the data in Category:Icelandic name graphs (month) and Category:Icelandic name graphs (year) and articles such as is:Elínheiður can be used to find out the birthdays of particular people. The matter has been discussed at the Icelandic Wikipedia and I think we have a rough consensus there to remove these graphs. Haukurth 19:52, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Given the uselessness of these graphs and the consensus in is.wp, I support deleting these images. Samulili 21:52, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Only delete if no one is able to demonstrate a useful purpose for these images. Siebrand 22:52, 3 June 2007 (UTC)  Comment I'd like this deletion request to be mentioned in the Village Pump of is.wp. Could someone please mention it there, preferably in Icelandic, and post the link here? I think it is wise that in case we would go for delete here, we wait at least two weeks after this being posted on is.wp before actually deleting anything. Siebrand 23:44, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    The year graphs are arguably slightly informative in that they sometimes show changes in popularity of names over time. I would still like to delete them for various reasons (for starters many of them are empty or show a very unreadable flat graph which represents a name occurring every now and then, take a look and you'll see what I mean) but I don't believe there is a consensus at the Icelandic Wikipedia for doing so. Haukurth 23:16, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Certainly. We had already had a fairly long discussion on the Village Pump where I mentioned I'd make this nomination. I've now posted an explicit link to this page.[1] Haukurth 00:05, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment - if absolutely needed these graphs can be created using wikitables and a template. If the info is available there isn't really any reason to have an image when it can be done using a table, which is more editable and fixable than an image. -- Editor at Largetalk 01:25, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually they look like perfect candidates for creation using m:EasyTimeline. But I think Commons should leave this decision entirely up to the Icelandic community. If they find them useful, we should keep them. If they agree they're not needed, then delete. --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 02:18, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Being one of the two instigators to their creation I sadly must admit that they are flawed and a large number of them are empty. The EasyTimeline looks like an interesting alternative. However it would be good, but not vital, if we could hang on to the years until alternatives have been found (as can be seen here). --Stalfur 02:39, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • If the raw data has a free license, would it be a possibility to place the data on wikisource? It might have a tutorial on the talk page explaining how to create and EasyTimeline graph on part of the data... Siebrand 05:56, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • The raw data is extracted from the National register, however I don't think it is hindered by any copyright or such, and so once a new harvest is ready, with more recent and more accurate data (including now deceased people) hosting it on Wikisource sounds good. --Stalfur 13:05, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do Commons delete images just because they are no longer used? That will break page histories by creating red image links. If the images were in use for any significant period of time, that demonstrates that the images were inside of Wikimedia scope. So if there is no license problem and the images were used, I say you should keep them. /82.212.68.183 17:49, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I think the problem with red image links in page histories of bot-generated articles is miniscule and smaller than the problem of these uninformative images coming up when people hit "Random file". Haukurth 20:09, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    This is not a valid reason. We are talking about 10k images on 1500k (a chance of 10/1500 = 0.67% chance of hitting an image from this collection where n=1). Siebrand 22:38, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Which means that for every 300 clicks on the 'random file' button a couple of people are getting one of these babies. Surely there are more than 300 clicks on that button a day so a lot of people really are seeing these images. This is not a huge problem but I still think it detracts from Commons as a library of useful and interesting material. The problem of red links (instead of uninformative graphs) in historical versions of little-read articles is even smaller, in my opinion, and that's what I was comparing this against. Haukurth 23:34, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    With EasyTimeline coming to the rescue these charts are now obsolete and the year charts, only ones being displayed on is.wiki currently, about to be removed from articles in favour of a TimeLine solution, they are no longer required. However as for keeping them as a historical record, I'm neutral about it. --Stalfur 01:46, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Stalfur, would you like the images to remain until they have been replaced on is.wp, or would you like us to proceed deleting them if consensus could be established here after the 14 days waiting period I indicated earlier? Would you like to have any prerequisites, like the source data being available on wiki source and/or a tutorial for creating an easy timeline with the data? Cheers!
    Most of them have been replaced by Timeline in is.wikipedia, the rest will be replaced over the coming days. A week from now it should be safe to delete them. The source will be added to Wikisource along with directions at a later date. --Stalfur 16:21, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    All graphs have now been delinked from is.wikipedia pages. --Stalfur 22:40, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Files will be deleted. I'll try and set a bot to work on the deletions asap. Siebrand 23:07, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done (or almost) Siebrand 00:17, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]